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Region:
South East
District or Unitary Auth.:
Milton Keynes
Managed by:
London Midland Trains
Postcode:
MK9 1DB
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Milton Keynes Central Railway Station

Scheduled Departures
DepPlatOriginating FromDestinationEarlier trains
Saturday, 20th April
London Midland21:403London EustonBirmingham New StreetCalling points
London Midland
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central departures
London Euston20:39TrainTime: Times & Timetables - London Euston to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:39)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from London Euston
Milton Keynes Central21:4021:40
Northampton21:5622:05TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Northampton (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Northampton
Long Buckby22:1522:16TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Long Buckby (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Long Buckby
Rugby22:2622:28TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Rugby (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Rugby
Coventry22:3822:40TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Coventry (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Coventry
Canley22:4322:43TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Canley (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Canley
Tile Hill22:4722:47TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Tile Hill (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Tile Hill
Berkswell22:5022:51TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Berkswell (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Berkswell
Hampton-In-Arden22:5522:55TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Hampton-In-Arden (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Hampton-In-Arden
Birmingham International22:5822:58TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Birmingham International (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Birmingham International
Birmingham New Street23:11
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Birmingham New Street (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Birmingham New Street
Service:
Ordinary Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
110 mph
Avanti West Coast21:463London EustonManchester PiccadillyCalling points
Avanti West Coast
ArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central departures
London Euston21:01TrainTime: Times & Timetables - London Euston to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:01)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from London Euston
Milton Keynes Central21:4521:46
Stafford22:3522:36TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Stafford (Sat 2024-04-20 21:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Stafford
Crewe22:5923:04TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Crewe (Sat 2024-04-20 21:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Crewe
Wilmslow23:2023:21TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Wilmslow (Sat 2024-04-20 21:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Wilmslow
Stockport23:3023:31TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Stockport (Sat 2024-04-20 21:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Stockport
Manchester Piccadilly23:42
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Manchester Piccadilly (Sat 2024-04-20 21:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Manchester Piccadilly
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations Compulsory (R symbol in white box)
Catering:
Restaurant Car available for First Class passengers
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
125 mph
London Midland21:511CreweLondon EustonCalling points
London Midland
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central departures
Crewe20:13TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Crewe to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:13)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Crewe
Milton Keynes Central21:5021:51
Bletchley21:5521:56TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Bletchley (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Bletchley
Watford Junction22:2422:24TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Watford Junction (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Watford Junction
London Euston22:44
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to London Euston (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to London Euston
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
110 mph
Avanti West Coast21:513London EustonWolverhamptonCalling points
Avanti West Coast
ArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central departures
London Euston21:04TrainTime: Times & Timetables - London Euston to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:04)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from London Euston
Milton Keynes Central21:5021:51
Rugby22:1422:15TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Rugby (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Rugby
Coventry22:2522:27TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Coventry (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Coventry
Birmingham International22:3622:37TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Birmingham International (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Birmingham International
Birmingham New Street22:4722:50TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Birmingham New Street (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Birmingham New Street
Sandwell & Dudley23:0023:01TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Sandwell & Dudley (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Sandwell & Dudley
Wolverhampton23:11
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Wolverhampton (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Wolverhampton
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations Compulsory (R symbol in white box)
Catering:
Restaurant Car available for First Class passengers
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
125 mph
Avanti West Coast21:571Glasgow CentralLondon EustonCalling points
Avanti West Coast
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central departures
Glasgow Central17:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Glasgow Central to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 17:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Glasgow Central
Milton Keynes Central21:5621:57
Watford Junction22:31
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Watford Junction (Sat 2024-04-20 21:57)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Watford Junction
London Euston22:55
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to London Euston (Sat 2024-04-20 21:57)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to London Euston
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations Compulsory (R symbol in white box)
Catering:
Restaurant Car available for First Class passengers
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
125 mph
Avanti West Coast22:021Manchester PiccadillyLondon EustonCalling points
Avanti West Coast
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central departures
Manchester Piccadilly20:15TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Manchester Piccadilly to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:15)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Manchester Piccadilly
Milton Keynes Central22:0122:02
Watford Junction22:36
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Watford Junction (Sat 2024-04-20 22:02)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Watford Junction
London Euston22:58
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to London Euston (Sat 2024-04-20 22:02)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to London Euston
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations Compulsory (R symbol in white box)
Catering:
Restaurant Car available for First Class passengers
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
125 mph
Later trains
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Scheduled Arrivals
ArrPlatOriginating FromDestinationEarlier trains
Saturday, 20th April
London Midland21:403London EustonBirmingham New StreetCalling points
London Midland
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central arrivals
London Euston20:39TrainTime: Times & Timetables - London Euston to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:39)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from London Euston
Watford Junction20:5420:54TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Watford Junction to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:54)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Watford Junction
Kings Langley20:5920:59TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Kings Langley to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:59)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Kings Langley
Apsley21:0221:03TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Apsley to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:03)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Apsley
Hemel Hempstead21:0521:06TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Hemel Hempstead to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:06)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Hemel Hempstead
Berkhamsted21:1021:11TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Berkhamsted to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:11)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Berkhamsted
Tring21:1521:16TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Tring to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:16)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Tring
Cheddington21:2121:21TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cheddington to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Cheddington
Leighton Buzzard21:2721:28TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Leighton Buzzard to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:28)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Leighton Buzzard
Bletchley21:3421:35TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Bletchley to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:35)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Bletchley
Milton Keynes Central21:4021:40
Birmingham New Street23:11
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Birmingham New Street (Sat 2024-04-20 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Birmingham New Street
Service:
Ordinary Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
110 mph
Avanti West Coast21:453London EustonManchester PiccadillyCalling points
Avanti West Coast
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central arrivals
London Euston21:01TrainTime: Times & Timetables - London Euston to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:01)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from London Euston
Milton Keynes Central21:4521:46
Manchester Piccadilly23:42
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Manchester Piccadilly (Sat 2024-04-20 21:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Manchester Piccadilly
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations Compulsory (R symbol in white box)
Catering:
Restaurant Car available for First Class passengers
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
125 mph
London Midland21:501CreweLondon EustonCalling points
London Midland
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central arrivals
Crewe20:13TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Crewe to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:13)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Crewe
Stafford20:3120:32TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Stafford to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:32)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Stafford
Rugeley Trent Valley20:4120:42TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Rugeley Trent Valley to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:42)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Rugeley Trent Valley
Lichfield Trent Valley20:4920:49TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lichfield Trent Valley to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:49)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Lichfield Trent Valley
Tamworth20:5520:56TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Tamworth to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:56)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Tamworth
Atherstone21:0421:04TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Atherstone to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:04)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Atherstone
Nuneaton21:1021:11TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Nuneaton to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:11)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Nuneaton
Rugby21:2621:27TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Rugby to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:27)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Rugby
Milton Keynes Central21:5021:51
London Euston22:44
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to London Euston (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to London Euston
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
110 mph
Avanti West Coast21:503London EustonWolverhamptonCalling points
Avanti West Coast
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central arrivals
London Euston21:04TrainTime: Times & Timetables - London Euston to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:04)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from London Euston
Milton Keynes Central21:5021:51
Wolverhampton23:11
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to Wolverhampton (Sat 2024-04-20 21:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to Wolverhampton
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations Compulsory (R symbol in white box)
Catering:
Restaurant Car available for First Class passengers
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
125 mph
Avanti West Coast21:561Glasgow CentralLondon EustonCalling points
Avanti West Coast
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central arrivals
Glasgow Central17:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Glasgow Central to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 17:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Glasgow Central
Lockerbie18:2318:25TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lockerbie to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 18:25)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Lockerbie
Carlisle18:4418:46TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Carlisle to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 18:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Carlisle
Penrith North Lakes19:0019:01TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Penrith North Lakes to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 19:01)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Penrith North Lakes
Oxenholme Lake District19:2419:25TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Oxenholme Lake District to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 19:25)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Oxenholme Lake District
Lancaster19:3919:40TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lancaster to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 19:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Lancaster
Preston19:5720:00TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Preston to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:00)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Preston
Wigan North Western20:1120:13TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wigan North Western to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:13)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Wigan North Western
Warrington Bank Quay20:2220:24TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Warrington Bank Quay to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:24)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Warrington Bank Quay
Crewe20:4220:44TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Crewe to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:44)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Crewe
Stafford21:0121:03TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Stafford to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:03)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Stafford
Rugby21:3321:34TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Rugby to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:34)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Rugby
Milton Keynes Central21:5621:57
London Euston22:55
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to London Euston (Sat 2024-04-20 21:57)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to London Euston
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations Compulsory (R symbol in white box)
Catering:
Restaurant Car available for First Class passengers
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
125 mph
Avanti West Coast22:011Manchester PiccadillyLondon EustonCalling points
Avanti West Coast
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Milton Keynes Central arrivals
Manchester Piccadilly20:15TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Manchester Piccadilly to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:15)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Manchester Piccadilly
Stockport20:2320:24TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Stockport to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:24)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Stockport
Macclesfield20:3620:37TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Macclesfield to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:37)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Macclesfield
Stoke-On-Trent20:5220:53TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Stoke-On-Trent to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 20:53)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Stoke-On-Trent
Lichfield Trent Valley21:1621:17TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Lichfield Trent Valley to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:17)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Lichfield Trent Valley
Tamworth21:2221:23TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Tamworth to Milton Keynes Central (Sat 2024-04-20 21:23)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central arrivals from Tamworth
Milton Keynes Central22:0122:02
London Euston22:58
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Milton Keynes Central to London Euston (Sat 2024-04-20 22:02)Stationboard: Live Train Times Milton Keynes Central departures to London Euston
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations Compulsory (R symbol in white box)
Catering:
Restaurant Car available for First Class passengers
Power Type:
Electric Multiple Unit
Speed:
125 mph
Later trains

CAUTION: Data is updated weekly and may not reflect unplanned dispruptions such as essential engineering works, weather or otherwise. Live train times can be found on our Stationboard pages. Train schedules data courtesy of ATOC. Last updated: 2024-04-26.

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Timetable 064
London to Coventry, Birmingham, Wolverhampton, Telford and Shrewsbury
Timetable 065
London to Crewe, N Wales, Manchester, Liverpool, Preston, Blackpool, Lancaster, Carlisle, Edinburgh and Glasgow
Timetable 066
London, Milton Keynes and Rugby to Nuneaton, Tamworth, Lichfield, Stafford and Crewe
Timetable 067
London to Milton Keynes, Northampton, Rugby, Coventry and Birmingham
Timetable 068
Rugby to Coventry, Birmingham and Wolverhampton
Timetable 100
Manchester, Liverpool, London, Birmingham and Preston to Lancaster, Barrow, Windermere, Carlisle and Scotland
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