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Region:
West Midlands
County or Unitary Auth.:
Shropshire
District or Unitary Auth.:
North Shropshire
Managed by:
Arriva Trains Wales
Postcode:
SY4 5AZ
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Wem Railway Station

Scheduled Departures
DepPlatOriginating FromDestinationEarlier trains
Friday, 29th March
Arriva Trains Wales22:21Cardiff CentralManchester PiccadillyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem departures
Cardiff Central20:05TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 20:05)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Cardiff Central
Wem22:2122:21
Prees22:2622:26TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Prees (Fri 2024-03-29 22:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Prees
Whitchurch (Shropshire)22:3322:33TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Whitchurch (Shropshire) (Fri 2024-03-29 22:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Wrenbury22:3922:39TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Wrenbury (Fri 2024-03-29 22:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Wrenbury
Nantwich22:4522:45TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Nantwich (Fri 2024-03-29 22:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Nantwich
Crewe22:5622:56TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Crewe (Fri 2024-03-29 22:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Crewe
Wilmslow23:1423:15TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Wilmslow (Fri 2024-03-29 22:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Wilmslow
Stockport23:2423:25TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Stockport (Fri 2024-03-29 22:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Stockport
Manchester Piccadilly23:41
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Manchester Piccadilly (Fri 2024-03-29 22:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Manchester Piccadilly
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
90 mph
Arriva Trains Wales22:42Manchester PiccadillyShrewsburyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem departures
Manchester Piccadilly21:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Manchester Piccadilly to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Manchester Piccadilly
Wem22:4222:42
Yorton22:4622:46TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Yorton (Fri 2024-03-29 22:42)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Yorton
Shrewsbury22:58
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Shrewsbury (Fri 2024-03-29 22:42)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Shrewsbury
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
100 mph
Arriva Trains Wales23:31Cardiff CentralChesterCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem departures
Cardiff Central21:15TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:15)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Cardiff Central
Wem23:3123:31
Prees23:3623:36TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Prees (Fri 2024-03-29 23:31)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Prees
Whitchurch (Shropshire)23:4323:43TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Whitchurch (Shropshire) (Fri 2024-03-29 23:31)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Wrenbury23:4923:49TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Wrenbury (Fri 2024-03-29 23:31)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Wrenbury
Nantwich23:5523:55TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Nantwich (Fri 2024-03-29 23:31)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Nantwich
Crewe00:0600:08TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Crewe (Fri 2024-03-29 23:31)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Crewe
Chester00:27
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Chester (Fri 2024-03-29 23:31)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Chester
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
100 mph
Arriva Trains Wales23:50Manchester PiccadillyShrewsburyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem departures
Manchester Piccadilly22:32TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Manchester Piccadilly to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:32)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Manchester Piccadilly
Wem23:5023:50
Yorton23:5423:54TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Yorton (Fri 2024-03-29 23:50)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Yorton
Shrewsbury00:05
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Shrewsbury (Fri 2024-03-29 23:50)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Shrewsbury
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
100 mph
Saturday, 30th March
Arriva Trains Wales00:27Cardiff CentralCreweCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem departures
Cardiff Central21:55TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 21:55)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Cardiff Central
Wem00:2700:27
Prees00:3200:32TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Prees (Sat 2024-03-30 00:27)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Prees
Whitchurch (Shropshire)00:3900:39TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Whitchurch (Shropshire) (Sat 2024-03-30 00:27)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Wrenbury00:4500:45TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Wrenbury (Sat 2024-03-30 00:27)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Wrenbury
Nantwich00:5100:52TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Nantwich (Sat 2024-03-30 00:27)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Nantwich
Crewe01:04
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Crewe (Sat 2024-03-30 00:27)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Crewe
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
75 mph
Arriva Trains Wales05:46ShrewsburyCreweCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem departures
Shrewsbury05:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Shrewsbury to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 05:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Shrewsbury
Wem05:4605:46
Prees05:5105:51TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Prees (Sat 2024-03-30 05:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Prees
Whitchurch (Shropshire)05:5805:58TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Whitchurch (Shropshire) (Sat 2024-03-30 05:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Wrenbury06:0506:05TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Wrenbury (Sat 2024-03-30 05:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Wrenbury
Nantwich06:1106:11TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Nantwich (Sat 2024-03-30 05:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Nantwich
Crewe06:21
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Crewe (Sat 2024-03-30 05:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Crewe
Service:
Ordinary Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
75 mph
Later trains
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Scheduled Arrivals
ArrPlatOriginating FromDestinationEarlier trains
Friday, 29th March
Arriva Trains Wales22:21Cardiff CentralManchester PiccadillyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem arrivals
Cardiff Central20:05TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 20:05)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Cardiff Central
Newport (South Wales)20:1820:19TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Newport (South Wales) to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 20:19)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Newport (South Wales)
Cwmbran20:2920:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cwmbran to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 20:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Cwmbran
Pontypool & New Inn20:3520:35TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Pontypool & New Inn to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 20:35)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Pontypool & New Inn
Abergavenny20:4420:44TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Abergavenny to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 20:44)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Abergavenny
Hereford21:0921:10TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Hereford to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:10)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Hereford
Leominster21:2321:23TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Leominster to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:23)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Leominster
Ludlow21:3421:34TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Ludlow to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:34)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Ludlow
Craven Arms21:4221:43TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Craven Arms to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:43)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Craven Arms
Church Stretton21:5121:52TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Church Stretton to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:52)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Church Stretton
Shrewsbury22:0722:07TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Shrewsbury to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:07)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Shrewsbury
Yorton22:1622:16TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Yorton to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:16)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Yorton
Wem22:2122:21
Manchester Piccadilly23:41
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Manchester Piccadilly (Fri 2024-03-29 22:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Manchester Piccadilly
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
90 mph
Arriva Trains Wales22:42Manchester PiccadillyShrewsburyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem arrivals
Manchester Piccadilly21:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Manchester Piccadilly to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Manchester Piccadilly
Stockport21:3921:39TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Stockport to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:39)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Stockport
Wilmslow21:4621:47TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wilmslow to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:47)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Wilmslow
Crewe22:0822:10TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Crewe to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:10)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Crewe
Nantwich22:1822:18TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Nantwich to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:18)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Nantwich
Wrenbury22:2322:23TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wrenbury to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:23)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Wrenbury
Whitchurch (Shropshire)22:3122:31TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Whitchurch (Shropshire) to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:31)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Prees22:3622:36TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Prees to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:36)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Prees
Wem22:4222:42
Shrewsbury22:58
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Shrewsbury (Fri 2024-03-29 22:42)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Shrewsbury
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
100 mph
Arriva Trains Wales23:31Cardiff CentralChesterCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem arrivals
Cardiff Central21:15TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:15)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Cardiff Central
Newport (South Wales)21:2821:29TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Newport (South Wales) to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:29)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Newport (South Wales)
Cwmbran21:4021:40TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cwmbran to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Cwmbran
Abergavenny21:5321:53TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Abergavenny to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 21:53)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Abergavenny
Hereford22:2022:20TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Hereford to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:20)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Hereford
Leominster22:3322:33TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Leominster to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:33)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Leominster
Ludlow22:4422:44TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Ludlow to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:44)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Ludlow
Craven Arms22:5322:53TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Craven Arms to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:53)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Craven Arms
Church Stretton23:0123:02TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Church Stretton to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 23:02)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Church Stretton
Shrewsbury23:1723:17TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Shrewsbury to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 23:17)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Shrewsbury
Yorton23:2623:26TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Yorton to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 23:26)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Yorton
Wem23:3123:31
Chester00:27
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Chester (Fri 2024-03-29 23:31)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Chester
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
100 mph
Arriva Trains Wales23:50Manchester PiccadillyShrewsburyCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem arrivals
Manchester Piccadilly22:32TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Manchester Piccadilly to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:32)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Manchester Piccadilly
Stockport22:4022:41TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Stockport to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:41)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Stockport
Wilmslow22:4822:49TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wilmslow to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 22:49)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Wilmslow
Crewe23:0923:18TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Crewe to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 23:18)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Crewe
Nantwich23:2623:26TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Nantwich to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 23:26)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Nantwich
Wrenbury23:3123:31TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wrenbury to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 23:31)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Wrenbury
Whitchurch (Shropshire)23:3923:39TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Whitchurch (Shropshire) to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 23:39)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Prees23:4423:44TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Prees to Wem (Fri 2024-03-29 23:44)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Prees
Wem23:5023:50
Shrewsbury00:05
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Shrewsbury (Fri 2024-03-29 23:50)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Shrewsbury
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
100 mph
Saturday, 30th March
Arriva Trains Wales00:27Cardiff CentralCreweCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem arrivals
Cardiff Central21:55TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cardiff Central to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 21:55)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Cardiff Central
Newport (South Wales)22:1322:13TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Newport (South Wales) to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 22:13)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Newport (South Wales)
Cwmbran22:2322:24TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Cwmbran to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 22:24)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Cwmbran
Pontypool & New Inn22:2922:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Pontypool & New Inn to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 22:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Pontypool & New Inn
Abergavenny22:4022:40TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Abergavenny to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 22:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Abergavenny
Hereford23:0823:08TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Hereford to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 23:08)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Hereford
Leominster23:2023:21TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Leominster to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 23:21)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Leominster
Ludlow23:3223:32TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Ludlow to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 23:32)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Ludlow
Craven Arms23:4223:42TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Craven Arms to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 23:42)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Craven Arms
Church Stretton23:5123:51TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Church Stretton to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 23:51)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Church Stretton
Shrewsbury00:0800:13TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Shrewsbury to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 00:13)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Shrewsbury
Yorton00:2200:22TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Yorton to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 00:22)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Yorton
Wem00:2700:27
Crewe01:04
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Crewe (Sat 2024-03-30 00:27)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Crewe
Service:
Express Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
Seat Reservations possible from any station (white diamond symbol)
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
75 mph
Arriva Trains Wales05:46ShrewsburyCreweCalling points
Arriva Trains Wales
Train stopsArrDepTrainTime.uk: Times & TimetablesStationboard.uk: Live Train Times - Wem arrivals
Shrewsbury05:30TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Shrewsbury to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 05:30)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Shrewsbury
Yorton05:4005:40TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Yorton to Wem (Sat 2024-03-30 05:40)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem arrivals from Yorton
Wem05:4605:46
Crewe06:21
TrainTime: Times & Timetables - Wem to Crewe (Sat 2024-03-30 05:46)Stationboard: Live Train Times Wem departures to Crewe
Service:
Ordinary Passenger
Class:
First & Standard seats
Reservations:
None
Catering:
None
Power Type:
Diesel Mechanical Multiple Unit
Speed:
75 mph
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CAUTION: Data is updated weekly and may not reflect unplanned dispruptions such as essential engineering works, weather or otherwise. Live train times can be found on our Stationboard pages. Train schedules data courtesy of ATOC. Last updated: 2024-04-26.

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